She died because she (unintentionally) broke the deal she made with him. (Azazel = Yellow Eyes = demon = deals)
It all happened in Season4, ep. 03 (“In The Beginning”); Azazel possesses Samuel (Mary’s dad). He then goes after Mary and kills young John Winchester. And then this happens:
I’ll tell you what, I’ll arrange to have lover boy here brought back breathing.
My parents too?
Nope, sorry doll, that’s not on the table. But, think about it, you could be done with hunting forever. The white picket fence, station wagon, couple of kids, no more monsters or fear. I’ll make sure of it.
What? And all it costs is my soul?
Oh, no, you can keep your soul, I just need permission.
Mmm, in ten years I need to swing by your house for a little something, that’s all.
Relax. As long as I’m not interrupted, nobody gets hurt, I promise. (beat) Or you can spend the rest of your life, desperate and alone.
The little something he was ref. to, was Sam Winchester; the son Azazel already knew about, the boy who he wanted to lead his army. So Mary agrees, John is brought back and all’s good. Until ten years later; November 22nd 1983, she hears her baby boy in his nursery and the good mother she is, she goes to check on him. When she walked into the nursery, Azazel shushed her and she turned around. But then realized it wasn’t John, because he was sleeping in the living room downstairs (TV still running) so she runs back to the nursery and then sees who is really standing at her son’s crib.
He kills her because she interrupted him; she broke the deal by doing so.
I never gave it any thought what would’ve been if she wasn’t killed, because then the whole show wouldn’t make much sense anymore. Mary’s death, and only that, is what got John into hunting in the first place… and then Sam & Dean.
If the show would have a complete different storyline, then Sam would have figured something was off with him once the headaches and visions started… he would turn to his mother for answers, because she always knew how to help him, always had a band aid at hand when he was hitting his growth spurt and tripped and fell over his too fast growing limbs, so he was sure she would know how to help him with this issue, too. Because no matter how weird the whole headaches and vision-crap sounded, his mother wouldn’t laugh at him and call him crazy.
In a quiet moment, when neither Dean nor John are around she would sit him down, explain things to him that make his whole body shiver and tremble in fear. But he believes his mother, never doubted word she said. The thing is, though, that Dean, his big brother, saw that something was nagging at him and Dean pushed until Sam couldn’t keep quiet anymore and told him about the monsters and the darkness… and Azazel. “I’ll hunt this son of a bitch down!” Dean would yell into the room… And then, yeah… they go after him. - and happen to run into even more creepy shit along the way.
Mary would have not not said anything, because the headaches and visions took their toll on Sam and no mother would willingly watch their child suffer through this, so the never saying anything is not an option. ;)
I don’t knooooooow. ;)
oh i sure as hell (pun not intended) remember this sentence. 5x01 “Sympathy For The Devil”
i love bobby and whenever he is (‘was’ *cry*) on screen i paid extra attention to everything he said, to every little detail his eyes, his whole body language was projecting.
It was one of the most painful moments for me to see how heartbroken Sam was when Bobby told him to lose his number. i sure have a kink for hurt!sam… but there is a difference between hurt!sam and heartbroken!sam… and right then and there, when bobby said those words i KNEW he was possessed. i remember i’ve said that in another post before. because those are his sons, if not by blood, but def. by heart. he’d never break sam’s heart, no matter how much shit sam’d pull.
anyway… back to the actual question.
no matter the fact that Dean was totally caught off guard by demon!Bobby, he’d NEVER fight Bobby, he wouldn’t hurt him, not intentionally. i think dean would rather die. he knew he’d never fight bobby, that’s why he didn’t argue.. all he did was whispering, pleading, begging: “Bobby”. and i think that’s all Bobby needed to take control for just enough time to yank that knife into his own body. the whispered “Bobby” meant more than just saying a name. as i understand it (just watch his face when he says it) he’s telling him to focus, take control over his body again and stop this madness. basically dean is telling Bobby that he loves him, just like a son loves his father.
he covered his face, well, more his eyes than anything else. he squeezed them shut, not wanting to see being hurt by the only person who’s ever treated him like a son.
and bobby didn’t look strange at Sam. it was more the opposite actually. sam thanked him, for forgiving him, for making clear that he’d “never cut him out. not ever.” Bobby was just a little annoyed by the fact that one of his boys started this kind of crap. always in trouble those kids - that’s what his eyes tell me.
….he deserves a damn medal for that. ;)
i hope this answer helps you a little. i mean… if it’s about bobby i just can’t stop to talk, ramble and argue. i just love him way too much. for everything he’s ever done for his boys. he might be grumpy, but he’s got a bigger heart than anyone else ever will have on this show.
a couple o’ days ago i made a lil’ post about Amelia and what I think of her and this whole applepie life sam’s suppose to love.
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for me it feels like the show is heading towards the end.
i’m one of the few people who don’t really care much about the Cas storyline. i know and i think it’s good, that Cas is important and i def. need him on the show, but the most important issue (for me!) is the brother’s bond. and i mean this in a non-shipper way. i want them to be brothers again - fighting for one another, killing everything that’s getting in the way of them being, or trying to be, somewhat happy.
i don’t ever want this show to end, but that’s wishful thinking, i’m aware of that. but when this show ends, i don’t want to see neither one of them dead. ever. not unless their is a possibility of them coming back.
purgatory is… it’s still a little foggy to me. they (writers) just had to go down that way and i like it. it’s too much worry about Cas though. i need those brothers to be them again. purgatory fucked that up. i just hope that this whole crap gets sorted out soon.
i don’t know, man. it’s too much hurt lately. too much frustration. gah.
isn’t it weird that sometimes you have to watch an episode 10 times before you see what’s happening there. i would appreciate it if you don’t start a discussion on who looks better in that blue jumpsuit. we all know the answer to that.
I’m not sure if this has been discussed before. But it just NOW hit me, why the boys said the baby’s name was Bobby John and why Dean said Bobby and soulless Sam said John.
I have seen this episode so many times before but never gave a thought to that baby’s name.
When you are a parent or about to become a parent and you have to think about names for the baby you’ll always think about relatives first. You go through all names - parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and so on.
Dean Winchester, raised to be a soldier, saw John more as a boss who’s rules and orders he had to follow, but not as a father figure. But Bobby was a father to him. That’s why he was the one who said the baby’s name is BOBBY.
Sam Winchester, at this point soulless, was raised to be a soldier as well but split with his father and brother… you know the story. But being soulless he didn’t care about Bobby or anyone else. Yet he went through the same process of how to pick a name. So his answer had to be 'John'. Basically his thoughts must have been: "yeah whatever. my father’s name was John. That baby’s name is gonna be John." He would have said ‘Bobby’ as well, wouldn’t he have been soulless.
Everything is so fucked up right now.
First the writers kill Bobby, then they bring him back.
Now they kill him. AGAIN. Probably for good this time. But Jim Beaver wasn’t so sure about that when I was talking to him. So I keep my hopes up. Let’s hope I won’t get knocked in the face with those hopes.
We wanted baby back, we got her back. But them writers let Meg kind of destroy her.
We wanted Dick dead, so the boys get to kill him. But in order to save the world, Dean’s going to Purgatory. He went through hell - in every sense of the term, so I think there’ll be a way to manage getting out of Purgatory as well. I don’t even want to think of how this might end up.
The flask is destroyed. Cas has to collect all his marbles and get my Bobby back. That should work. Sounds like a good plan.
But the writers need to come up with something good in order to make poor little Castiel happy again.
Cas wants a cat, doesn’t get one. Cas wants to play twister with everyone, ends up playing it alone. Poor dude ain’t being that lucky lately.
And seriously… what’s with those fucking alien-terminator-looking monsters in Purgatory?! They should’ve had Dick saying: “I’ll be back” to match them crappy monsters.
God. I don’t think that this post makes any sense at all.
But seriously. I’m more than confused now. We’ve gotta wait …what?… about 150 days ‘til 8x01?!
And where the fuck is Lucifer? Is he still in Cas’ noggin? I need to see Lucifer again.
And writers, please… let us know what the fuck’s up with Crowley… Mark Sheppard made it clear, that he isn’t really a demon. So what the heck is he? Is he in some kind of witness protection program as well? Because that’s what I’ve been thinking since forever.
Way too many questions.
-i’m going to sing stairway to heaven now-
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He didn’t drink it without noticing. Which should be obvious when you watch that whole scene over and over again. You might wanna turn the volume up a little more. When they show the empty bottle a slight woooshhh sound can be heard. Just like when the angels and ghosts showed up / disappeared in previous episodes. He did not have time to even look at the bottle, much less to drink from it. So I’m more than convinced that something supernatural is the reason for the ‘ohmagawd the beer is not in the bottle anymore!”-issue.
That’s all I have to say about this stupid fucking episode. I’m very sorry, but I miss Bobby too much. My heart is shattered. And I really hope and wish that Bobby will return - I don’t care if he comes back as a demon, angel, ghost or what the fuck ever. Just bring him back. :(
How about Bobby as the new vessel for Castiel?! I don’t give a fuck about anything else right now but Bobby. :(
I believe the beer-bottle issue has something to do with Bobby, that’s why I’m posting this.
When I was watching 1x01 for the first time:
…. so erm.. did that mobile really just started to move by itself?! Weird.
…. flickering lights. Nice.
…. why’s there blood dripping on that little baby’s face?! Huge question mark above my head.
…. the fuck is that bitch burning on the ceiling for?! Now it got interesting.
Take your brother outside as fast as you can. Now Dean, GO!
Sure… that boy’s taking his brother outside. When I was that little I couldn’t even carry my own freaking doll because it was too heavy. But here we got that little boy taking his 15lbs heavy brother outside. Sure thing dude.
A few seconds later:
- Damn, those 15lbs turned into something I’d hit - with my vagina.
- Oh crap. Someone’s in the house. "get outside as fast as you can. now Sam, GO!"
- Well, that fucker is kinda brave. What you gonna do with the bat though?!
- What are you guys doing?! Is that suppose to be fighting or you trying to be on some weird ass dance show?!
- Sassy gay moments. Wow, that brother’s an asshole. You can’t just hit on your bro’s girlfriend.
… FINALLY they explain what the fuck’s going on.
… So hunters they are. Ok. Warrior hunters. Apple-pie life. What the fuck’s going on?!
*watch* *watch* *watch*
Why’s that bitch in the car flickering now?! Oh I see what they did there. Ghosts. HA! I get it.
"I can never go home."
… bitch, just step out of the car and walk inside.
… now she’s gone. Ahhh.. ok. She’s not. Back in the car.
Of course you get killed by her, damn idiot. But does it have to be in such an ugly car?! I swear to god, if I ever have to die in a car, please let it be an epic one. Just like the one those gay brothers drive.
Research, lore, badass car, gay brothers. They are kinda cool though. Hey, they can fight and they are able to handle weapons.
Oh what’s that?! …Ghost orgasm in the car. Sweet.
Freak shot casper in the face. HRHRHRHR.
Oh crap, they play awesome music. First I thought they’d always play this stupid rap bullshit like they did earlier on that halloween party.
Awwww… cute. Feeling their feelings in the car. Yup, they’re definately gay.
Cookie’s for Sam. Isn’t that the cutest thing ever.
Oh shit. Nooo. Nooooooooooooooooo! He got blood on his face again. That means… OH CRAP!
So I guess you’re going with your brother after all, eh?! I should’ve seen it coming.
Gotta watch the next episode.
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Bobby is a better father to Sam & Dean than John ever was.
I don’t care how you all say that John did everything for his boys. Sure, he gave his life for Dean, but if Bobby would have been there and not him, he would have done the same.
7x10 once again proved that Bobby cares about nothing as much as those two boys.
Bobby has always been the one to make sure they had at least somewhat of a childhood, he is the one taking care of them since they were little boys.
John gave them orders, but Bobby gave them family. If he’s going to die, then we all know what his heaven will look like: it will be him and the boys; laughing, fighting, drinking beer, being loved - family. Sam & Dean gave him the family he never had.
Bobby is not afraid of dying, Bobby Singer is afraid of leaving his boys behind, because he knows that it’ll break their hearts.
If Bobby dies, I’m sure Sam & Dean won’t recover from it. Their hearts will be shattered.
Remember in 5x18 (Point Of No Return) when Dean was about to say YES to Michael? Sam came (with help from Castiel) to save him from what he’s about to do. Before they locked him in the panic room they had a little talk in the study. Bobby said to Dean: “You can’t give up son!”
…and I know he meant it exactly like that. You can’t give up SON.
Dean’s answer broke everyone’s heart, just check at Sam’s shaking-head-extreme-bitchface. And Bobby was dying a little inside.
"You’re not my father and you ain’t in my shoes."
Right after the extreme bitchface Dean realized what he just said. He basically stabbed the only father-figure he ever had right into the soul. It hurt everyone in this room.
Dean was tearing up, you could see that he actually did regret what he just said.
Sam & Dean know exactly how great of a father Bobby was/is to them.
When Bobby told his father: "I adopted two boys and they grew up great. They grew up heroes."
Sam & Dean were (obviously) not around, but I know for certain that they are aware of the fact how much Bobby loves them.
If Bobby dies, Sam & Dean will die with him. Maybe not their bodies, but their hearts and souls will be on very thin ice.